'RHOC'S Gina Kirschenheiter Explains Why Katie Ginella's Apologies Weren't Enough (Exclusive)

11:50 AM PDT, Fri Jul 18, 2025
'The Real Housewives of Orange County's Gina Kirschenheiter unpacks the drama unfolding with Katie Ginella on season 19, airing Thursdays on Bravo and streaming on Peacock. The longtime orange-holder tells ET's Brice Sander, Katie's many apologies rang false and weren't backed up by action. Gina teases how it all comes to a head when the cast sits down for lie-detector tests. Plus, she tees up the explosive drama to come on the cast trip to Amsterdam, which is when Gretchen Rossi breaks down to Heather Dubrow, as teased in the trailer. She weighs in on Gretchen's long-awaited return to the show and how Tamra Judge handled it, while also offering personal life updates -- from moving back in with her boyfriend, Travis Mullen, to living through the scare of her ex-husband, Matt, suffering a heart attack.

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